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#1 Oct 29, 2009 5:41 pm

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I need help please!

the are some topics that i cant seem to find any GOOD neg stuff on can any 1 please help me? I need cards, topicallities, briefs, ks, sig., harms, inherencies ... the whole she-bang, anything and everything ... i would be willing to trade for them, and i have some good stuff.

the topics are:

abortion
child abuse
child care
energy assistance
marrige promotion
school lunches
summer food programs


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#2 Oct 29, 2009 6:00 pm

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...energy assistance? like what?


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#3 Oct 29, 2009 6:33 pm

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woah interesting aff... How do they claim they are topical?

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#4 Oct 29, 2009 8:43 pm

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Hdfrenchy wrote:

woah interesting aff... How do they claim they are topical?

im not completley sure but these are on the list of comenly used affs my coach gave me, and yes they sound very interesting, well some off them, and i would love to debate them


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#5 Oct 29, 2009 9:03 pm

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For the on case and commen K's you sould look on http://www.debatecoaches.org/openevidence/

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#6 Oct 30, 2009 6:52 pm

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Limming wrote:

For the on case and commen K's you sould look on http://www.debatecoaches.org/openevidence/

i already checked there, they only have some bad abortion stuff


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#7 Nov 2, 2009 12:22 pm

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9876543363 wrote:

the are some topics that i cant seem to find any GOOD neg stuff on can any 1 please help me? I need cards, topicallities, briefs, ks, sig., harms, inherencies ... the whole she-bang, anything and everything ... i would be willing to trade for them, and i have some good stuff.

Try original research- it never hurts to do so. I won't provide evidence, but i'll provide strats that you can base research off. I'll provide what my 2NR would most likely be and if you're interested in knowing a 1NC, I'll provide the rest of the strat.

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abortion

Depends on the aff- if the aff rules on the grounds ofequal protection then PIC out of it and rule on the grounds of involuntary servitude with the net benefit being equal protection bad. Solves all the aff

9876543363 wrote:

child abuse

States CP+Politics

9876543363 wrote:

child care

States CP+Politics

9876543363 wrote:

energy assistance

Based off the aff i've seen- Multiplank CP (ADV CP out of warming and nuke subs CP to solve heg) + Politics

9876543363 wrote:

marrige promotion

Never heard of it- but i'm pretty sure states cp+politics would work.

9876543363 wrote:

school lunches

CP to have the 50 boards of education in each state end CAFO and have the surgeon general promote dietary foods+Politics

9876543363 wrote:

summer food programs

Never heard of it- States CP+Politics

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#8 Nov 2, 2009 5:45 pm

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ur strats are oh so diverse =P


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#9 Nov 2, 2009 6:37 pm

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ur strats are oh so diverse =P

And equally awful >.<, it takes an idiot to not see that TheProject is Christian.

No one else runs nuke subs, much less someone that it just HAPPENS to be their first post.

Enjoy your ban.

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#10 Nov 2, 2009 7:32 pm

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i dislike states heavily, it doesnt make a convincing arg, its too easy to attack, all you have to read is that the 50 states will not work simultaneously,


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#11 Nov 2, 2009 7:45 pm

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i dislike states heavily, it doesnt make a convincing arg, its too easy to attack, all you have to read is that the 50 states will not work simultaneously,

Wrong, wrong, and wrong.


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#12 Nov 2, 2009 8:38 pm

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how so?


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#13 Nov 2, 2009 9:55 pm

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how so?

States Counterplans are obviously a much better way to solve than the aff. If you're talking about all 50 states acting in unison, there is actually literature on the issue.


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#14 Nov 2, 2009 10:12 pm

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yes but have the states ever acted in unison, the literature is hypothesizing, its not as accurate as history. and besides the states will recreate the plan text to fit their own need so you will have 50 different plan texts completely removing ground for the aff


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#15 Nov 3, 2009 7:01 am

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That's the point... They don't do the "one size fits all" federal government plan text.. Making it solve better...


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#16 Nov 8, 2009 9:12 pm

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BritainKennedy wrote:

invis3 wrote:

how so?

States Counterplans are obviously a much better way to solve than the aff. If you're talking about all 50 states acting in unison, there is actually literature on the issue.

No. Mainly because states don't even have Jurisdiction to do half of those cases.

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#17 Nov 9, 2009 7:10 am

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AndaPrime wrote:

BritainKennedy wrote:

invis3 wrote:

how so?

States Counterplans are obviously a much better way to solve than the aff. If you're talking about all 50 states acting in unison, there is actually literature on the issue.

No. Mainly because states don't even have Jurisdiction to do half of those cases.

I never said they could, just that if it's run at the proper times this year it's deadly. Especially with a good politics disad. Anyways, he was talking about the theoretical aspects of it, not necessarily the policy.

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#18 Nov 9, 2009 4:40 pm

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BritainKennedy wrote:

AndaPrime wrote:

BritainKennedy wrote:


States Counterplans are obviously a much better way to solve than the aff. If you're talking about all 50 states acting in unison, there is actually literature on the issue.

No. Mainly because states don't even have Jurisdiction to do half of those cases.

I never said they could, just that if it's run at the proper times this year it's deadly. Especially with a good politics disad. Anyways, he was talking about the theoretical aspects of it, not necessarily the policy.

"Run at the proper times" does not equal "obviously a much better way to solve than the aff." The point is, if a good chunk of the affs deal with gov't policies, the States won't be able to solve..even theoretically the CP wouldn't be preferable if it's still a world where there's no jurisdiction over the plan.

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#19 Nov 9, 2009 6:39 pm

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"Run at the proper times" does not equal "obviously a much better way to solve than the aff."

Yeah, it really does, it's assuming the neg team is competent.

AndaPrime wrote:

The point is, if a good chunk of the affs deal with gov't policies, the States won't be able to solve.

One word: Lopez...

AndaPrime wrote:

even theoretically the CP wouldn't be preferable if it's still a world where there's no jurisdiction over the plan.

We were talking about 50 state fiat bad theory, which is where this discussion started...

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#20 Nov 9, 2009 7:11 pm

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BritainKennedy wrote:

AndaPrime wrote:

"Run at the proper times" does not equal "obviously a much better way to solve than the aff."

Yeah, it really does, it's assuming the neg team is competent.

My point was that when you said it was "obviously a much better way to solve than the aff" you indicated it globally, not in certain instances like you did later on--the point being that it doesn't always or most of the time even.

AndaPrime wrote:

The point is, if a good chunk of the affs deal with gov't policies, the States won't be able to solve.

One word: Lopez...

That's pretty irrelevant, especially since you were advocating a generic states CP as opposed to the supreme court giving the states power.

And for the link debate...

AndaPrime wrote:

even theoretically the CP wouldn't be preferable if it's still a world where there's no jurisdiction over the plan.

We were talking about 50 state fiat bad theory, which is where this discussion started...

I was pointing out specifically "States Counterplans are obviously a much better way to solve than the aff." That's a direct statement on how they solve better as opposed to whether or not it's fair to use them [which is where my contesting came from]

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#21 Nov 9, 2009 7:12 pm

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$10 says this guy is lsu


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#22 Nov 9, 2009 7:13 pm

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^^ Actually I debate on Brit's Circuit tongue

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#23 Nov 9, 2009 7:35 pm

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He's not lsu lmao. He's cool.


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#24 Nov 9, 2009 7:40 pm

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$10 says this guy is lsu

So you also owe me $10, I'll split it with ya Mike.


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#25 Nov 9, 2009 7:41 pm

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...lol u gotta come get it though, im not going to arkansas for it


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